Comments on G D C S + S W D P: Editing 'Ever' & Punk

Gene Morgan is more prog rock than Goblin, Faust, ...

2008-08-29T20:14:00.000-04:00

Gene Morgan is more prog rock than Goblin, Faust, Gong, Can, Gentle Giant, and Magma put together.

I've always felt very prog-rock.

2008-08-29T18:52:00.000-04:00

I've always felt very prog-rock.

steel reserve puts bowling balls in your colon.

2008-08-29T17:31:00.000-04:00

steel reserve puts bowling balls in your colon.

i have accomplished the titties

2008-08-29T15:25:00.000-04:00

i have accomplished the titties

best cheap beerCAMO HIGH GRAVITY (SILVER ICE)KEYST...

2008-08-29T14:28:00.000-04:00

best cheap beer

CAMO HIGH GRAVITY (SILVER ICE)
KEYSTONE ICE
ICEHOUSE
STEEL RESERVE (be careful with this if you are a guzzler, it is high high gravity, and will put you on your ass)
PBR (circa 1986)
MILLER HIGH LIFE

i think blake is right on these three things.

punk is a moment like an epiphany.

punk is a really fucking stupid word.

titties are good.

blake is right about other things too.

this conversation is getting a whole lot realerhah...

2008-08-29T12:06:00.000-04:00

this conversation is getting a whole lot realer

haha toys r us kids

seeing old faithful used to be punk rock but it is...

2008-08-29T11:23:00.000-04:00

seeing old faithful used to be punk rock but it isn't anymore and the only reason that it isn't punk rock anymore is because it was punk rock so well that it drew in even people who aren't interested in things that are punk rock. that has nothing to do with whether or not old faithful itself is punk rock, but that doesn't even matter, because you can't really experience it genuinely unless you maybe watch a video of it alone in your room, which can be impressive, but still you are missing some important energy.

what i mean is

you can't go to a NOFX concert and experience it genuinely

you can listen to the records alone in your car and drum on the steering wheel but that really only makes you punk rock

Derek and I are of the same generation and yes it'...

2008-08-29T07:45:00.000-04:00

Derek and I are of the same generation and yes it's true punk was already dead by the time Minor Threat hit the scene. Those who called themselves "punk" back then (this was before MTV) were in our eyes "new wave" (whatever that means). We were "hardcore" but I've never since been all that comfortable with that term (maybe because of its porno implications). I feel pretty softcore these days, though I'd like to believe that on the page I can still slam it and stick it hard. Maybe more than us being punk what we are, Derek, are a couple of boys, a couple of Toys R Us kids. I'm punk with that.

a.k.a. "kill me quick". http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi...

2008-08-29T04:14:00.000-04:00

a.k.a. "kill me quick".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/1025120.stm

If you're punk, drink this.

There, 99 bottles of changaa on the wall.

chang'aa. It even sounds punk. Like chang'aa tu ma...

2008-08-29T04:11:00.000-04:00

chang'aa.

It even sounds punk. Like chang'aa tu madre.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Changaa

speaking of beer, and just to help fill things out...

2008-08-29T04:07:00.000-04:00

speaking of beer, and just to help fill things out to 97, Tusker Lager is punker than PBR. There's some alcohol here that is way punk, that will kill you if you don't know what you are doing. I forget what it's called. It's so punk it's not on the internet.

Titties is a different ballgame. As are teets. Noy...

2008-08-29T03:54:00.000-04:00

Titties is a different ballgame. As are teets.

Noy Holland is cowgirl punk. Fortunately I have one of her books with me here.

96 bottles of beer on the wall. Take one down, pass it around...

while revising i found that i had 'tits' in there ...

2008-08-29T03:23:00.000-04:00

while revising i found that i had 'tits' in there already, does that count?

if not, i'll work on 'titties' i can do it

i think you spoke most clearly of all, no surprise

i think often things are punk for a minute but they lose context. punk in a moment

really, i hate the word punk, i dont know how i got started on this

i still think noy holland is punk

Shit, 93 posts. I guess that's what happens when y...

2008-08-29T02:27:00.000-04:00

Shit, 93 posts. I guess that's what happens when you a dozen or so timezones away.

I came here to challenge Blake to fit some titties into Ever without forcing it. If I had a 10k advance to give him, that would be his reward.

Thanks for saying I'm punk, I guess, and for the kind words bout the press. Even in 1982 when I thought I was punk I don't think I was punk. Even then we acknowledged punk was dead and called ourselves hardcore. I think punk died the second it knew what it was. Kind of like zen. It died with Sid Vicious. I think we need a new word for what we are talking about here. It's all art to me. There's things done in the name of art, and there's things done in the name of commerce. Talking Heads are the quinessential art band. Great as they are, I don't think they are punk just because they played CBGBs when others were. You might make a case for Minor Threat and Bad Brains. They might qualify. I love the Dead Kennedy's but even they were an art band living in a post-punk world. Punk needs to die. The kids throwing rocks at my car yesterday are punk. The guys who cut down a tree across the road I was driving on yesterday are punk. I'm definitely not punk here, I'm way too privileged. Punk needs to be at the bottom of the food chain. Oh, and Dave Eggers is far from being punk. I met the REAL Valentino Achak Deng the other day, and maybe he was punk. But if he was really punk he wouldn't have let someone write his story for him. And it's all way too calculated. Rumor is that Eggers himself is on his way to Nairobi in a few days. If I meet him I'll slam him some and see how he responds.

When I lived in Wisconsin, we used to say that Old...

2008-08-28T23:45:00.000-04:00

When I lived in Wisconsin, we used to say that Old Milwaukee was a practical joke we were playing on the rest of the nation.

I think the garbage situation was a maggot exodus....

2008-08-28T23:09:00.000-04:00

I think the garbage situation was a maggot exodus. barf.

I am a Peter Markus fan!

2008-08-28T23:07:00.000-04:00

I am a Peter Markus fan!

king cobra.

2008-08-28T19:14:00.000-04:00

king cobra.

i think people are forgetting one of the best chea...

2008-08-28T18:47:00.000-04:00

i think people are forgetting one of the best cheap beers known as 'the beast'

aka milwaukee's best

i used to have a case of that in my hand every friday/saturday night in high school. it was my beer briefcase

my little buddy, how i miss you

schaefer fucking rules. here is my cheap beer heir...

2008-08-28T18:41:00.000-04:00

schaefer fucking rules. here is my cheap beer heirarchy in terms of flavor.

1. schaefer
2. pbr
3. carling's black label
4. schlitz
5. old style
6. blatz

here is why i drink these beers: cheap.

also (going numerically by the list above)

1. good. they have dollar cans at the muncie bar we frequent
2. i like it. it's very widely available for cheap.
3. same as schaefers
4. schlitz is an awesome name for a beer. i want to hold a can that says "schlitz."
5. cheap.
6. same reason as schlitz.

the best cheap beer/malt liquor is micky's. ah, forties.

i enjoyed reading this post. one day, i will forg...

2008-08-28T17:46:00.000-04:00

i enjoyed reading this post. one day, i will forget ever having done so, but right now, it is a part of me and i am glad.

Bottled Schaefer Beer tastes like raw red meat cov...

2008-08-28T16:32:00.000-04:00

Bottled Schaefer Beer tastes like raw red meat covered in melted butter.

That's either punk or really gross.

Probably both.

The only kind of beer I like is the one that taste...

2008-08-28T15:13:00.000-04:00

The only kind of beer I like is the one that tastes like apricot cobbler.

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"punk" is becoming in this discussion something ve...

2008-08-28T15:01:00.000-04:00

"punk" is becoming in this discussion something very close to religious. Like I can imagine a bunch of monks in 1200 having this discussion very earnestly over their mead and saying "is this holy? no holy is outside, holy is inside etc."

- mike, man that shits funny.

true true - its not the same pbr. they made the BIG SWITCH like mickey d's swapping out the chicken sandwiches like nobody's gonna notice or give a fuck.

george w. bush is punk

You'll be in charge of deciding the aesthetic dire...

2008-08-28T13:42:00.000-04:00

You'll be in charge of deciding the aesthetic direction of America.